Comments on: Ron Paul: President of the Internet http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/ After a long day, we know you can work up quite a thirst for tasty entrainment. Search no further. Alterati is the spot for home-brewed, 100 proof podcasts of the Alterati.com editorial team. In it you will find a delectable blend of original musics, audiobook and drama excerpts, interviews with artists and media theorists of the fringe, and hints of strawberry and motor oil. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:13:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: David Howard http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159842 David Howard Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:45:58 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159842 google: 9/11 Cancer http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=239753 google: 9/11 Cancer

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]]> By: New Republican Poll - Page 2 - World Affairs Board http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159840 New Republican Poll - Page 2 - World Affairs Board Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:13:43 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159840 [...] many examples would you like?Here's a fun one. alterati [...] many examples would you like?Here’s a fun one. alterati

]]> By: Klintron http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159833 Klintron Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:41:20 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159833 Mike, the above libertarian critique of Ron Paul applies equally to the JBS: they oppose coercion only at the federal level but support it at the state level. And WRT their alleged racism, here's an excellent article on the JBS in Public Eye: "In a sense, the Birch society pioneered the encoding of implicit cultural forms of ethnocentric White racism and Christian nationalist antisemitism rather than relying on the White supremacist biological determinism and open loathing of Jews that had typified the old right prior to WWII. Throughout its existence, however, the Society has promoted open homophobia and sexism. The Society's anti-communism and states rights libertarianism was based on sincere principles, but it clearly served as a cover for organizing by segregationists and White supremacists. How much of this was conscious, and how much unconscious, is difficult to determine. That the Birch Society clearly attracted members with a more hate-filled (even fascistic) agenda is undeniable, and these more zealous elements used the JBS as a recruitment pool from which to draw persons toward a more neonazi stance on issues of race and culture." http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/jbs.html Two notable examples of "members with a more hate-filled (even fascistic) agenda" are founding member Revilo P. Oliver and, much later, Tom Metzger. Oliver espoused openly antisemitic views and was either forced to leave the JBS because of them or left the group because it wasn't antisemitic enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revilo_P._Oliver From Wikipedia: "In recent years, Metzger has advocated the 'lone wolf' method of organization for white nationalist groups, which states that a person should not outwardly display his/her racist ideology, but must act covertly." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger This is part of why many people believe groups like the JBS are a front for overtly racist organizations. Mike, the above libertarian critique of Ron Paul applies equally to the JBS: they oppose coercion only at the federal level but support it at the state level.

And WRT their alleged racism, here’s an excellent article on the JBS in Public Eye:

“In a sense, the Birch society pioneered the encoding of implicit cultural forms of ethnocentric White racism and Christian nationalist antisemitism rather than relying on the White supremacist biological determinism and open loathing of Jews that had typified the old right prior to WWII. Throughout its existence, however, the Society has promoted open homophobia and sexism.

The Society’s anti-communism and states rights libertarianism was based on sincere principles, but it clearly served as a cover for organizing by segregationists and White supremacists. How much of this was conscious, and how much unconscious, is difficult to determine. That the Birch Society clearly attracted members with a more hate-filled (even fascistic) agenda is undeniable, and these more zealous elements used the JBS as a recruitment pool from which to draw persons toward a more neonazi stance on issues of race and culture.”

http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/jbs.html

Two notable examples of “members with a more hate-filled (even fascistic) agenda” are founding member Revilo P. Oliver and, much later, Tom Metzger.

Oliver espoused openly antisemitic views and was either forced to leave the JBS because of them or left the group because it wasn’t antisemitic enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revilo_P._Oliver

From Wikipedia: “In recent years, Metzger has advocated the ‘lone wolf’ method of organization for white nationalist groups, which states that a person should not outwardly display his/her racist ideology, but must act covertly.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger

This is part of why many people believe groups like the JBS are a front for overtly racist organizations.

]]> By: Jason Lubyk http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159838 Jason Lubyk Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:34:26 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159838 think it's kind of funny that the jbs hijacked my title: http://www.jbs.org/node/5593 think it’s kind of funny that the jbs hijacked my title:

http://www.jbs.org/node/5593

]]> By: Klintron http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159837 Klintron Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:02:53 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159837 Good Ron Paul critique from a libertarian perspective: http://www.technoccult.com/archives/2007/09/21/ron-paul-on-separation-of-church-and-state/ Good Ron Paul critique from a libertarian perspective: http://www.technoccult.com/archives/2007/09/21/ron-paul-on-separation-of-church-and-state/

]]> By: Mike http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159839 Mike Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:44:54 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159839 There's nothing racist about the John Birch Society. They have many black and Jewish members. They stand for one thing: individual liberty and fighting coercion against innocent people. They oppose socialism, fascism and communism. There’s nothing racist about the John Birch Society. They have many black and Jewish members. They stand for one thing: individual liberty and fighting coercion against innocent people. They oppose socialism, fascism and communism.

]]> By: Charles Brown http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159841 Charles Brown Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:29:53 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159841 Well instead of actually looking this up for yourself you rely on a man who writes horrile condesending articles about a man hes never met. Vote Ron Paul Well instead of actually looking this up for yourself you rely on a man who writes horrile condesending articles about a man hes never met.

Vote
Ron Paul

]]> By: palerider http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159832 palerider Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:01:37 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159832 Hmmm, well thanks for one thing guys. I no longer think it's funny to feign support for 'Crazy Ron'. I didn't know about the rascist and Birch allegations. Hmmm, well thanks for one thing guys. I no longer think it’s funny to feign support for ‘Crazy Ron’. I didn’t know about the rascist and Birch allegations.

]]> By: Mike http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159831 Mike Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:12:53 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159831 God bless The John Birch Society. They are againt both fascism and socialism. They are against coercion, that is they are against government that goes beyond its proper constitutional role of providing a police, a justice system, and national defence. Remember folks, government depends on the use of coercion to fund its spending. The money the government receives from its citizens is not voluntarily given, if it was, we would call it donations, but we call it taxes. The more government spends, the more it needs to coerce (tax) its citizens. "How soon we forget history... Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And, like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington God bless The John Birch Society. They are againt both fascism and socialism. They are against coercion, that is they are against government that goes beyond its proper constitutional role of providing a police, a justice system, and national defence.

Remember folks, government depends on the use of coercion to fund its spending. The money the government receives from its citizens is not voluntarily given, if it was, we would call it donations, but we call it taxes. The more government spends, the more it needs to coerce (tax) its citizens.

“How soon we forget history… Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And, like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

George Washington

]]> By: blackpage http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159834 blackpage Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:16:58 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159834 Let's not forget the John Birch Society. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbirchS.htm (see: final paragraph) He's a post-Cold War castaway. A friend of Willis Carto is an enemy of mine. Let’s not forget the John Birch Society.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbirchS.htm
(see: final paragraph)

He’s a post-Cold War castaway. A friend of Willis Carto is an enemy of mine.

]]> By: Klintron http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159835 Klintron Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:13:31 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159835 Let's not forget the racist newsletters he used to publish, but claims not to have written. These, along with his militant opposition to immigration and civil rights laws, have made him the politician of choice amongst racist groups: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/17/155438/459 Also, though he says he opposes the war, he says he supports hiring "private sources" to attack foreign enemies - http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007708070389 I've always wondered why he's associated with libertarianism, he seems closer to Constitutionalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States)) Let’s not forget the racist newsletters he used to publish, but claims not to have written. These, along with his militant opposition to immigration and civil rights laws, have made him the politician of choice amongst racist groups:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/17/155438/459

Also, though he says he opposes the war, he says he supports hiring “private sources” to attack foreign enemies – http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007708070389

I’ve always wondered why he’s associated with libertarianism, he seems closer to Constitutionalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States))

]]> By: John Howard http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/ron-paul-president-of-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-159836 John Howard Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:58:27 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1273#comment-159836 I bet that no matter what happens in the universe, this little blogger will be able to summon up heaping paragraphs of snide, dismissive condesension so we all know how a big thinker views our silly little world. I bet that no matter what happens in the universe, this little blogger will be able to summon up heaping paragraphs of snide, dismissive condesension so we all know how a big thinker views our silly little world.

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