Comments on: Back To The Folk http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/ After a long day, we know you can work up quite a thirst for tasty entrainment. Search no further. Alterati is the spot for home-brewed, 100 proof podcasts of the Alterati.com editorial team. In it you will find a delectable blend of original musics, audiobook and drama excerpts, interviews with artists and media theorists of the fringe, and hints of strawberry and motor oil. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:13:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Gia Mccracker http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-293789 Gia Mccracker Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:16:04 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-293789 Who Votes For ACTA? visit our website and find out what's going on with ACTA. Webmaster please dont delete this comment is very important. Who Votes For ACTA? visit our website and find out what’s going on with ACTA. Webmaster please dont delete this comment is very important.

]]> By: Bazarov http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158772 Bazarov Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:19:25 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158772 I like your article. If you are interested in Black Metal, the culture around it and the ideas upon which it is based, I recommend reading the "Heavy Metal FAQ" (url: http://www.anus.com/metal/about/faq/ ). Written by a Texan known on the internet as Spinoza Ray Prozak (later Vijay Prozak) of the American Nihilist Underground Society (A.N.U.S.), it contains a lot of music theory but also the ideological/spiritual background of Metal (particularly Black Metal and Death Metal). It is a bit of a long-read, and with the liberal cosmopolitan Frankfurt-School attitude of the disinfo crowd in mind I suppose you might find themes like tribal nationalism, radical traditionalism etc. a bit reactionary, but it is still a useful source of information and an intelligent approach to a much misunderstood genre. To your mention of the subculture's problematic relationship to Christianity I might humbly add the following comment: Black Metal is not so much anti-christian as it is anti-modernist; see for instance its staunch refutation of any notion of "equality". I like your article. If you are interested in Black Metal, the culture around it and the ideas upon which it is based, I recommend reading the “Heavy Metal FAQ” (url: http://www.anus.com/metal/about/faq/ ). Written by a Texan known on the internet as Spinoza Ray Prozak (later Vijay Prozak) of the American Nihilist Underground Society (A.N.U.S.), it contains a lot of music theory but also the ideological/spiritual background of Metal (particularly Black Metal and Death Metal). It is a bit of a long-read, and with the liberal cosmopolitan Frankfurt-School attitude of the disinfo crowd in mind I suppose you might find themes like tribal nationalism, radical traditionalism etc. a bit reactionary, but it is still a useful source of information and an intelligent approach to a much misunderstood genre.

To your mention of the subculture’s problematic relationship to Christianity I might humbly add the following comment: Black Metal is not so much anti-christian as it is anti-modernist; see for instance its staunch refutation of any notion of “equality”.

]]> By: jamescurcio http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158768 jamescurcio Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:23:36 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158768 it's something of a misinterpretation to say that there is a "gen hex camp" at all. it was a bunch of people, some of who knew each other, some who didn't, who all wrote essays that were in an anthology. but, that aside, i think what you're talking about is more a matter of taste than anything else. and the fact that many people might not be aware of the folk roots in some of these different forms of music- (thus this article.) :) it’s something of a misinterpretation to say that there is a “gen hex camp” at all. it was a bunch of people, some of who knew each other, some who didn’t, who all wrote essays that were in an anthology.

but, that aside, i think what you’re talking about is more a matter of taste than anything else. and the fact that many people might not be aware of the folk roots in some of these different forms of music- (thus this article.) :)

]]> By: Bood Samel http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158767 Bood Samel Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:33:47 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158767 I've always been a bit surprised by the lack of involvement with the gen hex camp in regards to black metal, noise and neo-folk in general. If the idea was to inspire youth to pursue the occult, why not get people from forms of underground culture that already have explicit ties with the occult? I could see why perhaps some of the disinfo related folks (in particular after dealing with the silliness of Mr. Pell) would be put off from power electronics, neo-folk, etc., but even black metal? Does the radical traditionalist streak of those realms of culture not jive with you guys more post-modernist take on things? Arkona is nice- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYwdiUPFRCg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMQU1Tjfwr8 I’ve always been a bit surprised by the lack of involvement with the gen hex camp in regards to black metal, noise and neo-folk in general. If the idea was to inspire youth to pursue the occult, why not get people from forms of underground culture that already have explicit ties with the occult? I could see why perhaps some of the disinfo related folks (in particular after dealing with the silliness of Mr. Pell) would be put off from power electronics, neo-folk, etc., but even black metal? Does the radical traditionalist streak of those realms of culture not jive with you guys more post-modernist take on things?

Arkona is nice-

]]> By: Re:Generator Magazine » Blog Archive » Metal for maniacs pure http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158771 Re:Generator Magazine » Blog Archive » Metal for maniacs pure Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:05:05 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158771 [...] Curcio steers of clear of the usual genre detritus to offer his definitive guide to Scandinavian black metal. Curcio makes some excellent choices, but chooses to focus on bands who incorporate folk elements [...] [...] Curcio steers of clear of the usual genre detritus to offer his definitive guide to Scandinavian black metal. Curcio makes some excellent choices, but chooses to focus on bands who incorporate folk elements [...]

]]> By: jamescurcio http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158769 jamescurcio Wed, 12 Sep 2007 05:10:04 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158769 yes, there's a lot of cross over between a lot of closely related genres here that i kind of skirt around because, first off, genres with that level of specificity are at least somewhat subjective, and also because it would make for a very long article. yes, there’s a lot of cross over between a lot of closely related genres here that i kind of skirt around because, first off, genres with that level of specificity are at least somewhat subjective, and also because it would make for a very long article.

]]> By: Bood Samel http://www.alterati.com/blog/2007/09/back-to-the-folk/comment-page-1/#comment-158770 Bood Samel Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:10:39 +0000 http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1338#comment-158770 Don't forget the folk metal sub-genre and the relationship between black metal, noise, power electronics and neo-folk. Don’t forget the folk metal sub-genre and the relationship between black metal, noise, power electronics and neo-folk.

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